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But nowhere have I suggested that aliens couldn't have been traveling for hundreds of years. I did say that any communication they send back to their home planet, from their findings here, would take hundreds of years. And when they left their home planet, earth wouldn't have even been sending...

Who said that they'd traveled by conventional means? I went with the notion that they were traveling at the speed of light. Maybe that's conventional to you. Traveling back in time and engineering points in space are science fiction. If you want to believe that's happening, go ahead, but we...

The idea that it is in any way proof of aliens visiting has been debunked. Filming something badly, so that it can't be seen what you've filmed, creates a UAP. That will always be the case, and isn't particularly interesting. You asked what my thoughts on the videos were. I find the video...

Where have the UAP said that those videos are wrong? The video footage is poor and it's not possible to identify exactly what they are. So what?

Yeah that pretty much covers it

I concede that is the most likely explanation

Oo, how many of those points you mentioned do I get? Please don't take offence, I say what I think, nothing more or less

Oh right, so you're accusing me of being an abuser for some abuse you're expecting me to dish out, but I haven't. That's pretty f***ed up. Have I asked someone for evidence (I'm not saying I haven't, just not sure)? You can't claim that Swanny doesn't provoke a reaction from people. He sent me...

I wasn't suggesting they were trying to communicate with us, but we have tried to communicate with them. On earth, we have constant radio waves everywhere, and if another life form picked them up, they'd be able to read the signals the next day too. So it seems odd if they made a signal 35 years...

If there was a radio signal from that constellation, it would be a bit weird if they suddenly stopped wouldn't it? It's a bit of a long way away, making communication a real ballache.

What names have I called people here? And where have I been aggressive?

I know what reactive abuse is (or at least I think I do), but I have absolutely no idea what you're on about. I've not been abusive to you. If you think I'm using reactive abuse, then presumably you think you've been abusing me. Blimey. No, I didn't think that. Er, ok.

If only a few countries knew about it, I can easily believe them trying to keep it from us. But too many countries would know, and they wouldn't all keep quite. Not even counting how many individual whistle blowers there would be. And I don't mean someone saying 'hey, there's life out there and...

You think I'm abusing you?

You accuse me of abuse, you're rude to me, you say adios, and then you quote me looking for more debate. Make your mind up. You don't know anything about me. If I thought there was any credible evidence of aliens visiting us, I would be absolutely fascinated by it. I don't think there is, so...

Not looking for anything. I don't agree with your post, that's all. My response is based on the difference between the freedom of speech and information here, as opposed to the USSR. I wouldn't dismiss things like the Holodomor as a conspiracy theory, just as I don't dismiss the current war...

My mind isn't close, it just seems too unrealistic that's all.

I would be interested to hear the views of experts, but it's all too easy to find an expert who just wants 15 minutes in the spotlight. We can see details of systems within 100 light years from earth and we cannot detect any evidence of intelligent life from those systems (like radio waves...

Could you post a link please?

Nah. Well all vaccines aren't tested on humans, until the day that they are. Or are you saying that the Covid vaccines we released to the whole population had never been tested on humans before mass release? If so, do you have a source for that please?