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  1. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    That ties in with the age old joke about God and the devil having a discussion over the boundaries of heaven and hell. God said, let's take it to court, and the devil said, Don't be silly, where are you going to find a lawyer?
  2. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    The practical aid in the community and wider world is easily found, if you look hard enough. Some of it already mentioned on this thread.
  3. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    People have been saying that for 2000 years, but there are more Christians in the world now, than at any time in history. It is on the decline in the West, but well on the rise in Korea, China and the Middle East.
  4. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    I know. Kings church started from my church Christ the King, in Brighton.
  5. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    When was the last time some shook a tin at you for the roof? I don't know churches in Swindon, but as I've pointed out several times in this thread, St Peters is slowly being restored without begging for donations.
  6. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    When I looked it up, having not heard of it before, it was definitely pre 1536 churches.
  7. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    It uses the income to pay clergy, pensions and build houses. CESSA (Church of England Soldiers’, Sailors’ & Airmen’s Housing Association) for example, building sheltered homes for veterans.
  8. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    All PCCs? How many churches are pre 1536?
  9. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    A very strange analogy as Richard Branson can sell his retreat at any time. The Anglican church cannot sell grade II listed buildings like St Peters in Brighton. Incidentally, how many of you have been asked to contribute to the restoration of this church?
  10. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    Charities like Oxfam and Christian Aid account for every penny they spend unlike some charities who pay their execs massive wages. https://www.oxfam.org.uk/donate/how-we-spend-your-money Christian Aid The facts and figures are that long-term development projects received 49 per cent of our...
  11. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    I was curious and looked it up. You have to put the blame on Henry VIII for this one. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1094403/Pay-500-000-God-help-say-couple-forced-medieval-law-foot-church-repairs.html
  12. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    If the spaghetti monster church wants to apply for charity status, then I'm sure it would be granted. They would have to satisfy the Charities Commison's regulations, though. Mosques and Templesare also exempt as they are classed as having charitable status, so Christianity isn't being favoured.
  13. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    Thanks. That would explain why as parishes I've lived in have been Victorian churches.
  14. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    I've never heard of chancel repair liability and it's not come up on any search where I've bought a house. I've just had to look it up. Does it apply to every parish or only certain ones? I'm not a member of the CofE any more although I was for 26 years.
  15. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    A lot of churches would like nothing better than to move out of the old stone buildings that are hard to maintain. A lot of Free churches have converted warehouses, which are easy to clean and heat although not as beautiful. Listed buildings come from Heritage England via the Secretary of...
  16. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    How many of the 16000 churches have you been to? Where have the churches pretended they are poor? I haven't personally heard any moaning about lack of money. I just Googled Leprosy Mission as I know a lot of churches donate money to it. It's been running for 141 years and has practically...
  17. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    Most churches? How many? As has been mentioned, a lot of buildings are listed, so have to be restored to a set specification. Look at St Peters. You can't just nip to B&Q for a stone flying buttress. There are the vicarages as well, and pensions for the ministers when they retire. They do...
  18. Thunder Bolt

    [News] Should The Church pay tax?

    The assets earn money which is used to pay clergy, house them, and for upkeep of the buildings.
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