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That was an absolute stitch up as well.

Sorry mate all been discussed at great length in this thread. Really can't be bothered to go over it all again.

Yawn.

Perhaps this is another question for PC BHA?

If that were the case then surely there would have been grounds for the French police to make an arrest? It didn't stop them in other cases. Like I said, moving away from the incident in question, I'm interested to get PC BHA's personal opinion of the civil banning order process if he is...

Your role with Sussex Police and the Marseille events aside. What is your honest option from a human perspective with regards the civil football banning order? Is it fair or just to be able to put these restrictions on someone's life without having convicted them properly? I understand that...

Are you serious? Who do you think was the spearhead for applying for the bans in the first place?

Some of us haven't been as sensible (in the past and more recently). No BHA should give him the time of day.

Good informed post. I hope if nothing else is learned from all this, that people know that Darren Balkham is not your mate no matter how pally he gets and how much he preaches he is looking out for you. Slip up one day and he will be more than happy to see that you are banned and allow your...

Fair play to you mate. I don't have Twitter but even if I did I would not want to paint a target on my back by confronting Darren on this issue.

They will see it mate don't worry.

The 'complaint' is what the police submit to the court to obtain the FBO. The ban from the club is a seperate issue. It's a bit like being banned from a pub - it's at their discretion. So yes they do have a chance of seeing BHA again.

After the ban expires the club usually have a sit down with the individual and make them sign a behaviour contract to be allowed back.

No it isn't.

In that case the chaps will have to be told.

How many times does it have to be said? . In a civil court you don't need conclusive evidence. Only circumstantial. So there is no element of proof needed. . The Magistrates take the word of the police as gospel. . You are effectively threatened with footing the bill of the complainant if...

You are aware in this country (and most democratic nations) it is innocent until proven GUILTY. Not the other way around.

Ok Dave. Video evidence isn't completely infallible but I know there is no budging your stance so I will leave it there.

I don't need to speak to anyone. I'm talking to you because we disagree about about something on a forum. My bottom line is don't believe everything the police say... With regards the journalist/undercover police officer yes I understand they did get a drink thrown over them.

I give up. **** it.