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  1. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    There's no doubt that if you are white, male, physically fit, of working age and no diagnosed mental illness you will get zero assistance from the government no matter how you became homeless. I will say though, having worked across the length of breadth of London over the years I saw many...
  2. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    It's not that people don't "like what you speak". It's that they don't like you.
  3. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Very good. Probably best we don't turn this into a binfest. Have a lovely day.
  4. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Can we have that in English? I would genuinely like to clarify what you mean.
  5. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Where else would one invent things? In their knees?
  6. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Well nobody has said "I'm a Tory supporter and I don't want this scrutinised". It's called interpretation. You dolt.
  7. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Seems like quite a few Tory supporters on here don't want the possible underlying causes of this tragedy scrutinised too closely. An attitude which I'm sure will be mirrored in the wider world. When the enquiry/cover up begins will it be acceptable for whoever is being investigated to wave it...
  8. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    I can't stand Theresa May, I hope she resigns and is never heard from again. However, to suggest she doesn't care less about 30 people burned to death or the survivors in hospital is, in my opinion, pretty vindictive not to mention very likely untrue. Yes, she is massively out of touch...
  9. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Most large buildings are separated into zones that are protected from fire. As long as you are not in the zone that's on fire the best advice is normally to stay put. However in this case the fire bypassed this protection by spreading up the outside of the building and entering through windows...
  10. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    There are many reasons people read such things, not all are ghoulish. Some people deal with things by having full knowledge of incidents. Not something I wish to read but everyone is different. Some read things to remind them how precious their loved ones are and how lucky they are. Some to...
  11. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    For a few years I was in charge of Health & Safety at one of our beloved Philip Green's flagship stores on Western Rd. Fire routes were continually being blocked and I mean blocked so that you couldn't even move through them at all, piled high with fittings, manequins, stock etc. The store...
  12. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    Exactly what I was trying to say.
  13. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    I'm in building management so deal with H&S regs all day long and you are quite correct a FRA would have been carried out and a report made. Having a risk assessment is all well and good but meaningless if no follow up actions are taken. It is looking like early signs say a risk assessment had...
  14. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    I understand that, Health And Safery At Work. I probably didn't explain myself well. What I meant was that in times when our workplaces are so well covered with H&S law it's remarkable so much is left to chance in domestic buildings. There is no way a purpose built office block of that size...
  15. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    True and it's not just building materials and regs but procedures and safety measures that were/weren't in place. Only one route out, only had me exit, the ambiguity of the "stay put" advice, the configuration of smoke alarm and warning systems, the possible need for regular drills (something I...
  16. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    This has the potential to drag out for years with the blame being passed, Hillsborough fashion, between the money men down to the builders who did the work. It'll be the lowest in the food chain that gets it in the end. In the meantime we'll have to poke up with the likes of Hopkins spouting...
  17. The Clamp

    Massive fire in London - Grenfell Tower in Shepherds Bush

    She's using real tragedy to claw back lost respect. In many ways it's more sickening and offensive than her Final Solution comment.
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