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Someone should hide this thread to protect any sensible human beings who might casually stroll by this forum.

Since you wasn't there, you can't know any of those things happened... by your own logic.

I suppose WW2 and 9/11 might not have happened either then? How about the Brentford game in December, did you go or do is there a fair chance - worthy of a mention - that it didn't happen?

Nah the troubles at Heysel was "brought about" by English fans wanting to kill locals and Italian fans which eventually led them to getting crushed against a wall. Your narrative is the same as when Nobby Cybergoat called English colonialism a "faux pas". You really have to be a very sad level...

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Real Madrid won it but probably not as much as Liverpool lost it.

Not saying that isn't the case but with Liverpools history, which is (rightfully and in a classy manner) often brought up I expect more respect towards the circumstances from Pool fans than I do from Real fans. Either way, the organisers are (mainly) the ones to blame. It's been shown over and...

No excuse. The French authorities need to take some height that this can happen, based on what they know (which should be a lot). With proper planning and enough resources this should not be able to happen.

I have, but not a lot. Doesn't surprise me however based on what I've seen of the French police.

Absolutely not although I would expect Liverpool fans to have a better grasp of the risks than most set of fans. But the "typical scousers" is obviously cheap shit - there are locals, Pool-fans, Madrid-fans all involved in this, and the main cause when a big event likes this goes tits up is...

Tear gas was rightfully banned as a riot control tool in a lot of developed countries for a long while because it creates panic and danger. To see it used in a circumstance like this is... militarisation of the police gone too far. Saves a lot of money I guess, you can have a few hundred...

Well, with proper organisation it can't happen so yeah part of the blame will be on them.

If you're a Liverpool fan trying to force your way in without a ticket into a crowded game you seriously need to go home and take a very long look in the mirror.