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The incident against Stoke didn't happen at Loftus Road, it was at the Britannia which is why we couldn't understand how Stoke got away with it. Stewarding of the away fans at Loftus Road is somewhat inconsistent. I've seen them pile in when away fans jump over the wall when they score, I've...

Re the discussion earlier about whether police have to be in attendance - I don't know if things have changed as a result of this incident but Villa-QPR in the Carling Cup a few seasons back, no police in attendance and it kicked off afterwards, a steward was injured and died later. From all...