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I agree totally, we are a a steadfast club that doesn't do knee jerking.

Talking of football grounds that are a pain in the arse to get to... Watford is a complete arse!

Pedant :wink:

And he's doing a bloody good job, and I saw a whole new side of him yesterday to have the guts to change his style, that makes for good managers.

Newcastle, another point in case. It isn't about ruthlessness, as you point out, three have to go down, but I don't for one minute buy the fact that sacking your manager keeps you up.

Hull, Sunderland, et al, don't, so it's a two sided coin.

I'm looking at the teams around us, sound me out if I'm wrong. Sacked managers at; Leicester Everton Watford West Ham Palace Stoke West Brom Swansea

I think I find it wholly crazy because we are such a settled club whilst all around us are arm flinging in desperation.

They may only be 3 points above us but I'd prefer their position to ours.

So you agree with his sacking?

Yep, they're 10th, we're 16th. Bloody awful they are.

What does it matter? We must be close. He has a team in 4th place outside the top six, what are the board wanting from their manager?

This is just seriously crazy, Watford, I mean, who the f'ck are Watford? They are 10th in the league, who wouldn't want to be 10th (outside the top 6). Why on earth would you sack your manager that is doing that kind of job? English football just gets more and more crazy.