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I would take on board (as you keep stating wrongly) that these are not facts but opinions, and that is a fact.

Sounds great, so why are we having this referendum, why is the vote predictions fairly close.

He was certainly more informed when he predicted a 7 point lead...... i think i will stay less informed.

I like this take on things. Rich people control politics, the media, and for many ordinary people their employment. rich powerful people are currently having a silly squabble, do we leave Europe or do we stay? they are trying to encourage the young to vote to remain, why, because they...

Exactly, same with the Dutch, i don't think even the Germans are all for it even though they run the show. I wonder how many of the voters too scared to leave, would vote leave if they knew other countries would follow...... i reckon quite a few of the gutless would.

You will not get an answer. He thinks that immigration is good for jobs and wages.

"We already have a guaranteed free trade agreement", we can get that out of the EU and we do not have to put up with the cost, the laws etc etc etc. Germany can stay in, so you have got what you want, either way the vote will not affect you...... Greece is a great example eh.

I see what you have done there. Firstly put up "facts" from EU funded sources. Second when these "facts" and the sources have been easily rumbled, put up a post admitting that these sources and other trumpeted by you DO get EU funding... and pass it off as... "Another example of how EU...

The Prime Minister, David Cameron, has said: 'If we were outside the EU altogether, we’d still be trading with all these European countries, of course we would... Of course the trading would go on. Sometimes … There’s a lot of scaremongering on all sides of this debate. Of course the trading...

You post "facts" from an EU funded think tank........there is little hope for you. I notice you skirted around The Centre for Economic Performance IS FUNDED BY THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION and in 2000 SUPPORTED scrapping the pound, calling for ‘immediate UK membership’ of the euro. The Prime...

This London School of Economics and the CEP??.......Credible, yeah ok. :rolleyes: Centre for Economic Performance report: EU-funded, highly selective and simply not credible March 18, 2016 Commenting on the publication of a Centre for Economic Performance report on ‘Brexit’, Matthew Elliott...

:D.......... " CAP funds don't go to bullfighting, they go to the Spanish farmer who happens to use those funds for bullfighting"........ happen he does :)

Glad you picked up on it. The view beggars belief, i wonder if he reads what he types. Unbelievable.

Wages are not rising, you seem to be unfamiliar with many things/subjects. Try researching before copying and pasting "facts" that you think are true, that way it may cut down the bullsh1t links you put up.

Any more views on immigration not affecting wages and jobs for our own. You have been very sure that it has had no effect.

From the other thread, like many others no answer. " Quote Originally Posted by 5ways View Post Worth noting that this skilled labour's education has been paid for by their country of origin. The average EU migrant with a degree has taken from their native system and transferred their skills...

This " tenuous link " has it happened, is it true, or is it a link like you put up which is bandied about as "fact" but is in fact just an opinion copied and pasted from a source you agree with.....

You really do either avoid answereing or bring in desperate examples. Brexit on immigration is CONTROLLED immigration, so stop trying to make out that anyone as in the Calde case is not welcome.

I happen to work with many Eastern Europeans, perhaps if you are going to try and put in an over the top "example" you should do your homework, Bulgarians are not pickpockets...... nice people actually, albeit too much immigration.

And the animal lovers. In 2013 it emerged that payments were being made under the Common Agricultural Policy to Spanish farmers rearing bulls for bullfights — more ‘oh no’ than ‘olé’. The practice might well be part of Spanish culture, but it’s hard to see how it doesn’t break all kinds of...