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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    I don't think he should. But I think he will. I also think this shows a real lack of class from the tories here. It also shows a real lack of planning too. They have a wafer thin majority. It's likely the next speaker will be a loyal tory. This means that Bercow goes from non voting to...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    They weren't personal insults. They were my assessment of how you were approaching your input to this discussion so far. If he is asked a question (as he was in a point of order) it is only right and fair that Bercow answered it honestly. And for those saying it wasn't his job to do so. All...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    You really are off your head aren't you. I pointed out that Bercow is one of three people who can invite someone to address Parliament and that it needs all three to agree. That's not a an opinion. It's a fact. Not an alternative one but a real one. Don't try and overtime this. You'll only...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    I never said who the false claims came from. You are right of course that they came from both. The point is though that there was a lot of social media false items (how many words were used in euro veg growing rules, cost of membership etcetc) That's what I meant by being a new norm
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    You know 4 tenths of 3 fifths of rock all. Your diatribe has nothing to do with what I've written but is based on your surmisation of what I may or may not think of brexit Muppet
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    It would help us all, including yourself if you read what you posted. Bercow is one of three people who controls invites to speak in Westminster Hall and who can address the commons. Having a rep of North Korea to a meeting isn't the same as a state visit nor is it addressing parliament...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    The BBC that covered those terrorist acts that the white house claims weren't covered? Rather trust BBC that Donald Trump at the moment
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    Indeed. It's going to be an awful 4 years as this selective news, alt facts, twitter presidency carries on. This is the new normal. We saw it with brexit and now us are doing it. Rather than drain the swamp I fear it just got a bit deeper
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    Trump won't change and bannan won't want him to. Our job is to help ensure that people don't start to believe this alt facts
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    I believe that there are events that may have happened in Europe, didn't pact UK citizens and weren't instantly recognisable as isis terror attacks and therefore were covered locally only. Doesn't mean the story didn't receive appropriate attention. Having said which, I remember working in...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    I'd shoot Morgan twice to make sure
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    See, doing something for publicity, reaction and self aggrandisement. The kind of language and behaviour people like Trump and Piers Morgan should resonate with.
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    Did you actually read his speech? It's very pointed and highlights the need to improve the situation and liberty of citizens. In diplomatic terms and to a country that studies things in detail like the Chinese, it's clear what he means. Clearly Bercow is cleverer than you give him credit...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    A nice bit of whataboutery there. Expenses and tax are probably not subjects that trump supporters should get involved in here. A speaker needs to stay neutral on domestic matters. But this is a matter of ceremony, as this is, he is allowed an opinion. Also one of his roles is to ensure a...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    Netanyahu has been prime minister of Israel an and off for over a decade. Yesterday wasn't a state visit and to my knowledge, he hasn't had one. Trump has been in the White house for less than 5 weeks but already he has had the honour thrown to him. I think it's that indecent haste that has...
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    Just to point out that a number of people on here posted in defence of Trumps young son who was being ridiculed. I think any child shouldn't have to pay for the actions of their parents whether that's ridicule or death
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    Look if you're going to pick up on every small little error, likely mistakenly creating a fictitious terrorist attack on the us, then it's going to be a long 4 years
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    That's the one with a typo in it (appose rather than oppose) As the first petition was already going to be debated, then the opposite (or should it be apposite) view would also be made. So we'll done them (both sides) for making a democratic point.
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    Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

    I suspect the notoriously thin skinned narcissist will give a toss. He's such a sensitive flower
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