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F.uc.king pretentious...Jesus the things you pick up on on here. Well I can’t be arsed with you.....I’m off for a Turducken club sandwich with Panko fried chicken and maple mayo now.

Yes, to differentiate him from his wife by using his clan name. So you didn’t get confused Alfred because they had the same surname. Glad it amused you....... you happy chappy you.

No one can doubt she kept the flag waving for the ANC during Sisulu, Tambo and Mandelas absence and showed bravery there but she will forever be tainted. Too much went on. I would have loved to have believed the accusations against her were false but you could tell through Madibas carefully...