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Official Old Man, I was not having a go at you at all, I was aware you were playing devils advocate, I was just pointing out all the reasons why it is just poor driving on her part. I live on Hartington Road, and drive down and up Elm grove at least once a day usually, I have never had a problem...

How ?? Surly as she was aware it was raining and the light was fading... 1: Her windscreen wipers would have helped with that pesky rain... 2: Being aware of the above, and a good driver concerned for her children in such hazardous conditions she also switched on her headlights. 3: Just what...

Yeah right, compensation claim written all over this.... She must have been going some speed to drive over the damn thing, oh a bit of rain, fading light, oh please do one.... Your a shite driver, and put your kids at risk because of it. Jog on