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  1. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Ha! No thanks, I couldn't bear the company I'd be keeping! Besides, I like to think I have principles, some integrity and a degree of self-respect, all of which would rule me out!!
  2. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    No, I'm not happy at all - but given Farage's public school, 'City' background and his professed admiration of Thacherite free market economics, I really don't believe he'll offer anything different to what we've had foisted on us for the last 30 years just more of the same !
  3. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Then a helluva lot of UKIP supporters are going to be very, very p*ssed off; they might well conclude that Farage is no better or different than the other mainstream political leaders!
  4. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    The very phrase I would use to describe UKIP and many of their, ahem, arguments. Every time you press UKIP and their supporters on a belief or claim, they backtrack and say 'oh, that's not what we actually believe. We've been misrepresented' or 'That's no longer official Party policy' or 'Er...
  5. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Because UKIP carefully avoid stating these policies in print, precisely so Farage - and people like you - can deny that they believe in such policies ('these are typical Leftie smears against us' - 'infamy, infamy, they've got it in for me!'). It's what UKIP candidates, members and supporters...
  6. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    What I do find particularly depressing is how many people vote for parties such as UKIP on the basis of misinformation or misunderstanding. For example, although only about 12% of the British people are either immigrants or from ethnic minority backgrounds, a major survey 3 weeks ago revealed...
  7. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Where/when did I mention Thatcher?
  8. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520012/Send-home-In-shocking-video-UKIP-councillor-key-Farage-ally-launches-astonishing-racist-rant--tells-MoS-I-stand-word.html...
  9. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    You are still missing the point. UKIP want out of the EU because they do not want 'immigrants' in the UK. So why would they take us out of the EU, but then allow other European citizens to live and work here? What on earth would be the point?
  10. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Ah, this (Tory) old chestnut. All Western economies tanked in 2008, because of the international banking system, with the crash of banks in free market America reverberating through Western Europe. Still, easier to blame Labour and Gordon Brown than acknowledge that the problem is intrinsic to a...
  11. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Their citizens are here (and UK citizens are living/working/retired there) because the EU enshrines the 'free movement of labour' and the right to residency in other EU member states. If we withdraw from the EU, as UKIP want, then this 'free movement' and 'right of abode' will come to an end...
  12. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Kicking out foreigners who are doing low-paid jobs will not automatically translate into well-paid jobs for the indigenous unemployed population; the same low-paid vacancies will still exist, it's just that the unemployed British workers will be forced to do them as a condition of receiving...
  13. Peteinblack

    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    And led by an ex-public school City trader who worships Thatcherite economics (more tax cuts for the rich, more power for employers to sack workers, more privatisation, more intense competition - leading to the 'relentless change' and 'modernisation' that UKIP voters hate). And would UKIP...
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