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I think that’s fair, but also is probably better centrally. As above, I remain on the fence, but that aside, a loan player unless making an impact, effectively blocks the progress of your own full-time players and youngsters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Still on fence, but that was a poor effort. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Think you watched different performances to me, as I honestly believed they were desperate...... [emoji2] That aside though, the squad rotation thing, couldn’t agree more and I thought a few of our players were ‘leggy’ on Saturday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Come on Stat Brother we were very poor Tuesday and Saturday let’s not mask it [emoji2]. They are not suddenly bad players, but equally they all need to step up vs Huddersfield, as for me Bong apart nobody played to the same level as they had vs Utd. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

See, I rate him, but really not sure on the trickery front. I think his gift is pure pace. I was staggered that given Brown’s success against the right back, we didn’t hit Izquierdo every time. As you say, the one time he did go on a run, he nearly scored. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, reckon he got a rollicking at half-time, because he was better as well defensively in the second half. Bong also gave him an earful after 10 mins, but he just didn’t track enough, hence I wonder if he may better deployed elsewhere. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Interesting point. I’ve stated on this thread rest Gross and replace him with Brown. Brown has a trick, so does Solly, Knockaert, KLL (fwiw) and arguably Murphy, but Skalak doesn’t but does Izquierdo? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sure, that is fair, I should have used a different phrase. Yes and quite agree re the 10 mins here and there, but it does work both ways, he was shocking at Arsenal (though out of position). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

But alternatively Icy, are you saying that a 25 minute cameo on Saturday at the start of the second half, should be enough to say he’s a ‘world beater’? I was underwhelmed when we got him on loan, and after 45 mins Saturday still wondered why he was blocking the progress of Tilley or why...

I would have said the same for Propper, wanted way too much time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, body language much better. I think the trouble is, he is so one footed, decent defenders can work him out quite easily. However, I think he is one mazy dribble away from returning to top form.

Watched a different game to me. Thought Knockaert’s workrate was excellent and he continued his improved form. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good point re closeness to Murray, for me Gross is not close enough at times. Would like to see him play at no 10 and either Gross rested or played instead of Stephens or Propper. (I do like Gross though). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agree with this, very poor in the first half, one cross apart. Second half, brilliant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He does and it is difficult to pass judgment in terms of performances for us. However, I don’t rate him anyway (prior to this season), and felt it was a wasted loan. Still hoping to be proved wrong if he gets a proper chance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk