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Many on the Remain side find comfort in agreeing with Trump's interpretation. Result: Trump wins.

I am aware that certain posters on here constantly put a slant on news and revel in point scoring and exaggeration. However, regardless of who bought in the legislation I just can't agree with the lack of respect being shown by the American authorities.

It can't be sensible though to deny entry because of an Iranian visa. All this is doing is sowing discord and distrust.

Superiority box ticked in previous posts and now childish insults to complete the set. Well done. If you don't mind I am going to return to debating the issues with the grown ups.

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your contempt for opposing points of view shines through your post. Feeling patronized by debate is a sign of both intolerance and immaturity. Perhaps your first sentence applies to you ? You will never know given your reaction to disagreement. I am still unsure why our society should choose to...

No indignation here of any type. Are you familiar with the concept of referring one's own character traits on to others ? I'm simply calling out your argument and making reference to the last time this country was governed in the way you suggest. It is somewhat ironic that you have chosen to put...

Yes that's exactly the reaction to losing elections we see in developing countries.....insulting the voters of the winning side. We need to persuade not insult those who voted Trump if we are ever to make a change. You are critical of the democratic process for choosing leaders and you are using...

Both sides equally guilty of that which renders any of their claims meaningless.

How could that ever be measured or audited ? Sure his direct business dealings can be watched but how about the 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' conversations on the golf course ? There is already too much crossover between senior business leaders and political decision making in the...

OK, fair enough.

It seems that you are saying that applying vetting to everybody is equivalent to banning everybody. The outcomes are completely different. The former causes inconvenience to the innocent and people will accept that in this day and age i.e. We are all working together to make the world a safer...

It seemed to me that he chose his words carefully to convey a message to any of his supporters who are anti Semitic. His answer was all about himself as is often the case.

I'm not sure that Trump's cosy set up with Israeli politicians is an excuse for ignoring anti scemitic incidents in the US. Your response ( I mean you as a proxy for a certain world view, I don't mean to single you out) demonstrates how Trump won and how he will continue to win. Unfortunately...

Yep I watched that in amazement. Trump knows he can get away with it though because many of his detractors won't express outrage at anti Jewish sentiments. If he had answered in a similar way in response to a question on Islamophobia then there would have been an extra 25 pages in this thread...

You make a valid point about our intelligence agencies having a greater confidence in containing the threat from Belgium as opposed to those countries on the travel ban list. I only used Belgium as an example to illustrate a narrow point about the effects of punishing the many for the actions of...

There is a distinction between assessing the threat of countries and the threat from citizens within those countries.

no it isn't. It is an argument with which you (and I) happen to disagree.

The threat from within Belgium is not unsubstantiated. It is the base from which attacks in France were planned and the terrorists were Belgian nationals. However I do not think we should react by imposing a travel ban on all Belgian nationals. This is what I mean by bad policy because the...

I think that to be poor policy. There are threats from many sources including for instance Belgium. There is no need to shut down movement from certain countries. If there is a threat then make entry conditions ever more stringent rather than ban everybody.