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If our game with them last week is anything to go by, I’d suggest that, justified or not, their players had no faith whatsoever in their manager.

So you’ve just confirmed my point that the five current Stoke players who have a CL winners medal, played a total of 3 minutes in a CL final? Each winning team gets 40 medals to dish out... Am I, other than those of you who gave my original post a thumbs up, the only person to consider this...

Well obviously in your case, I shouldn't have assumed anything. Apologies.

I'd kind of assumed that people would be able to see beyond that obvious point.

Pretty sure Jese has never appeared in a CL final, Fletcher was an unused sub, as was Kric and Shaqiri. Afelleay did play in the CL final, he came on in the 90th minute. Stat's eh?