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He did seem depressed, in hindsight. Same kind of resigned thing you see with Coppell, Tyson Fury, Martin Ling, Martin Allen, Aspinall, maybe Kell Brook at the moment. It's gutting. Life is bloody difficult but it must be even harder when you're in these high-pressure situations and responsible...

Top bloke. Always a great interview. Irrelevant, but Crawley won't have a better manager than him - the squad he worked with overachieved.