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That's also fine. It's always interesting how we conceive of the front 2 and what they're doing. We might not quibble that Murray and Hemed were more target men, and played more centrally, i.e. stayed predominantly within the goalposts and certainly rarely beyond the penalty areas, while Baldock...

FWIW, I'm slightly more with Aristotle in your engagement. Gross describes himself as a number 8 or number 10, which I see as playing ACM in a 4-2-3-1 or the most offensive of the central midfielders in a 4-5-1 respectively. We played most of last season as a 4-4-2, with Baldock as the support...

Yup. Aristotle has got to the form, the matter and the essence of things, both in this post and his assessment of Brown as cover for Gross.

I'm with you all the way on this Icy. Brown isn't even a striker, let alone a proven quality one. We do need (at least) one of those, but Brown will do me just fine as back up for Gross.