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Hallelujah! So here's an admittance that Tory governments = "massive increase" of debt levels Yet the only claim to economic credibility the Tories have is that Labour is the party of debt :lolol:

Yawn I used the wrong word while dashing off a 5-second post while doing 12 other things at work. If you want to debate this at the level of gotcha pedantry, bore off The graph actually shows debt falling under Gordon Brown's chancellorship in the early 2000 years - it can be done and was last...

Blah blah indeed. No denial that the debt burden has rocketed under the Tories. Check No denial that the Tories have presided over the worst economic recovery in British history. Check No clue about the need for investment in the British economy. Check. Oh you got something in about Shipman -...

What is it with you Tories and your obsession with cutting things - you are just clueless in thinking this Scrooge economics works - the insipid growth under the Tories proves it doesn't. "Largesse of the Labour government" huh? Just Tory code for flogging off the NHS How about shrinking the...

You are making an utterly economically illiterate point - so typical of a Tory, the stupid party after all. Borrowing is only a small factor in whether governments pile up huge debt - much more important is how much you spend, how much you raise in revenues and how much you bloody well grow the...

ha ha ha #YouAin'tNoSocialistBruv

Very interesting piece here about how Corbyn's authority has been strengthened by the reshuffle - and the Statesman is not sympathetic to Corbyn at all http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/01/ken-livingstone-calls-shadow-cabinets-bluff

Well that's even worse. Almost certainly the views you voted for are strongly represented in the shadow cabinet. No reason at all for that NSC f word then. Cult of Corbyn - that dismisses hundreds of thousands of people there who each have their own story. Are some of the Corbynistas too...

That's a shame - I stayed a member under many leaderships I disagreed with strongly. Given the collapse of the Liberal Democrats and the humiliation of Kendall, the centrist politics you subscribe to wouldn't even win parish council elections these days. You should think again - the new members...

I'd say you have a very jaundiced view of what leadership is - I'm guessing for you it's being ordered around by the Bullingdon boys. You are welcome to that - Corbyn is trying something different and his team already been successful in acheiving many cringing u-turns from the government...

Osborne has increased the deficit more than every single Labour government in history put together. Try again

Honestly, no one is interested in this stuff. It's got nothing to do with real politics

Massive humiliating U-turns on Saudi Arabia, tax credits and police funding already achieved by Corbyn. How about opening your eyes pal and stop swallowing the Murdoch spin wholesale

No I'd prefer you to go on the record here with what facts you know. To be honest, people are pissed off with the cloak and dagger bullshit of what passes for crappy Westminster gossipy politics. It means sod all to people's real lives

Ha ha ha

The big victory in Oldham - when everyone united behind his leadership - proves you are wrong. And he'll prove you wrong in the main election this year when Labour wins London back from Boris :thumbsup:

Sorry that's garbage - it's the media failing to do its job of holding the government to account while pursuing their proprietor vendetta against Corbyn, The excuse from journalists that they cant cover real news because of Corbyn must be the slimiest most self-serving piece of humbug I've...

The stupidist criticism of the reshuffle was that it took 2 or 3 days to sort out. Look, if you have a dictator at the top of a party, like a Cameron and a Blair, for sure it can be done in 5 minutes flat - top down leaderships can work in that way like the petty dictators that they are. Jeremy...

Is this your level of competence in argument and debate? I guess so

Yeh right - and all the lobby hacks haven't been spinning at all