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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Yep, you're right.
  2. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I completely agree with you about the lack of tolerance by some for those on the other side. I argued against it and suggested that people stopped saying that others were deluded. I'm pleased we agree. Incidentally, the only person who used the word 'deluded' to describe others was, I'm sorry...
  3. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    You're right but the first past the post system is the only one you can have in a two-horse single constituency referendum and it's completely fair.
  4. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Oo-er. Only one person on this thread has said that those who hold the opposite view are deluded. I've said it's wrong to call opponents deluded, but Westdene Seagull has been much more forthright. Not to worry though. It's a nice day and I've just had a pleasant hour at the Sea Lane Cafe. And...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Actually, I don't think it was in this case. Westdene Seagull is right! The sun is shining! No one is deluded!
  6. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    We're all prone to the odd typo, but I think you may be digging yourself a deeper hole here.
  7. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I was talking to a Lincolnshire farmer at a family wedding last month. He told me that his friends and neighbours prefer to employ foreign workers because they are brighter and harder-working. I doubt if that's a complete explanation. I doubt if there are any complete explanations. All sorts of...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    NHS is just the same, nurses skivvying along for next to nothing. And don't ask me about my GP surgery. And the village dentists. All foreigners!
  9. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Oh bugger. Still, at least it gives me a chance to apologise to you for making a mistake.
  10. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    All I want to know is where has Westdean Seagull gone? I'm worried about him.
  11. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Post 60. As I say, my references to the word were to criticise its use.
  12. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Goodness! Here are the facts. An 'outer' suggested that those not holding his view were a minority. I said that outers were hindering their case by claiming this, clearly implying that them were not a minority. You're right, I didn't add "according to opinion polls". I didn't need to - the...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Right, so you're telling me that, because a set of opinion polls got it wrong four months ago it is arrogant of me to point out what a different set of polls on a different subject is saying now? If anyone is still awake I'll leave them to draw their own conclusions. (I'm going for a little lie...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I don't want to be picky but I've never heard anyone saying that the economy will collapse if we leave the EU and presenting it as a fact. Tell me more. Some people have implied we will start trading successfully with other parts of the world if we do leave and some people have said we will be...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I just made the point that the outers (I assume you are one) seem very happy to make up things and present them as facts. This is a good example. Your figure is wrong.
  16. L

    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Yes, propaganda is everywhere but the Outers are much more shouty when staking out their position. Opinions are presented as facts and (this was my point) their campaign will be hindered by their belief that any view but their own is delusional, and held by a minority.
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I said earlier that one of the problems the outers had was that they believed their own propaganda. My view may be wrong but the post above tends to support it. The Barclay brothers' Telegraph, which is often rabidly anti-EU, publishes a tracker poll (ie a poll of polls) indicating how people...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I suspect that the greatest danger facing the outers is a surfeit of absolute belief in their own propaganda, and a complete certainty that anyone who disagrees with them is delusional.
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    I respect your view that a more certain disintegration of the UK matters less than getting the country out of the European Union. It's your opinion and we'll soon see how many people share it. I disagree with your view that people who decide that trying to preserve the present United Kingdom...
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    EU Referendum NSC opinion poll 2015

    Please don't trouble mentioning this - the subject is on the out-voters' ignore list.
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