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No they didn't. They went to general sale to STH with no extra loyalty points, but didn't slip below that

Newcastle and Stoke what?

If you think its a good arrangement then great. What we're you moaning about earlier? I'd be delighted to have a discounted seat that I could get my money back for the 15 or so games that I can't get to every season, I'm sure there are many thousands like me. Not the real world though is it.

We're not going down. But as a non-season ticket holder, through choice so I'm not on the list either, I think season-ticket holders get a huge amount of benefits already so I have little sympathy with demands for even more benefits. STH holders get heavily-discounted match tickets, first...