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:) just in the sense of our league position, but the progression of the club, the masterplan if you like, was continuing unabated through that period. Just turned out hyppia was a bad manager, and the guy in charge of recruitment was changed at the same time. Anyway, there is no doubt that...

No, there is a definite link between what we were doing then and what we were doing now, excusing that Hyypia aberration we have been on an upward trajectory ever since then, continuously adding and building and refining. The style we play now is not a million miles from what we played under...

Top bloke and one of our greatest managers. Cue thread full of people saying how the liked him, but their memories are 'soured by the way he left', interspersed with people saying that they always found his style boring. While everything changes, everything stays the same