It's really frustrating that it still gets labelled in that way. I know a bunch of people who have fought in mma bouts. None of them are "pub brawlers".
TBH people don't need to listen to Joe Rogan, there's a really healthy jiu jitsu scene locally with three legit BJJ gyms.
The Ali fight was a farce and based on who you believe ended up that way due to the limitations placed upon Inoki.
As for "pub brawler mentality of MMA". Utter ignorance. Try taking down a skilled grappler or landing a punch on someone who understands striking arts. Then combine the two.
I was highlighting BJJ in the military as you questioned it's effectiveness when trained in a sport setting. My point was that the military do train it. Part of the reason why is because it is believed to be effective. As a point of fact the amount of personnel in the UK armed forces who train...
So that'll be why Brazilian jiu jitsu for example is trained extensively by numerous armed forces (including in the UK) and yes they also compete in "sport" tournaments.
Plus the rising profile of MMA has seen growth in Muay Thai, Brazilian jiu jitsu and wrestling (not of the WWE kind)...
You have no idea what you're talking about.
There is no doubt that with Dana White et al in charge the marketing and hype is out of control.
However the level of skill required is insane.
Most fighters are elite level in at least one discipline (grappling/striking/kicking) with many being...