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+ Union paymasters who supported Unilateralist Corbyn are pro Trident .. :mad:

You're probably right. I can't see the far left giving up this chance to take control of Labour or how moderates with any self respect or integrity can stand by and watch it happen. A very messy bloody split, thank goodness there aren't any important issues facing the country as Labour indulge...

So much for drawing a line under past disagreements. Will this be political death by a thousand cuts or end with a split?

Ooooh that's a bit rich you've been blathering on conveniently ignoring numerous factual statements and posts as well as confusing the deficit with the national debt. Just to be clear in your world Corbyn is doing a great job, Labour are going from strength to strength and the Tories are...

The answer to my question was Labour. Being lectured about economic illiteracy by a Corbynista Socialist is a bit like listening to a speech about good bedside manner by Harold Shipman. As for the rest of it, media conspiracy yada yada blinkered self delusion. How many election defeats will...

Good old fashioned self interest usually of the economic variety.

No no no I mean't you could look at the chart to remind you of all Osborne's missed deficit reduction targets (the dark blue factual section). His initial aim was to eradicate it by 2015. Saying that inheriting vast debts and economic chaos from outgoing Labour governments does seem to be a...

I'll get a poster size one made so you can put it on your wall at home. It might give you pause for thought every time you go out to vote :D

Remind me who passed on that £150Bn debt in 2010? As Corbyn voted against every major piece of legislation introduced to cut public spending it's a bit hypocritical complaining about the size of the deficit. As I said no economic credibility.

He sort of did answer the questions and the underlying point in responding to opposition calls for more money remains the same. You have to have credible economic foundations and growth to fund the many demands on the public purse. Corbyn and McDonell lack credibility as they oppose every cut...

Thought the tax credit U Turn was mainly down to the Lords defeat (Lib Dem peers swung the vote) plus nervous Tory backbenchers. The Saudi Arabia decision was more a Gove Theresa May turf war and the Police funding announcement was as much a surprise to Labour as anyone. Of course you might be...

The point was Labour should be concentrating all their fire on the government instead of each other. Isn't holding the government to account mean't to be the job of the official opposition?

Some lobby hacks will spin the story to suit specific agendas but that doesn't hide the fact that this has been yet another shambolic episode leading to different elements within Labour openly slagging each other off across numerous media outlets. (See numerous twitter feeds of Labour MP's...

Genuinely hilarious comment ... spintastic!

Former Labour shadow chancellor Chris Leslie has warned that the "hard left" is trying to take over the Labour Party, as he criticised leader Jeremy Corbyn's shadow cabinet reshuffle. The MP told the Daily Politics there was a "natural impetus among the hard left who want to tighten their...

Well done, you got me hook line and sinker.

I thought you did albeit indirectly.

Not 'worried' what they are doing more an amused/bemused fascination. Always happy to criticize the government where appropriate but this thread is about the opposition.

Aiming for the stars is a noble goal but directional drift is more important :D May I compliment you on an early entry for quote of the year ... ... :thumbsup:

The good ship Britannia seems to be doing Ok unlike her majesty's official opposition.