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  1. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2019/jun/08/documenting-migrant-deaths-in-the-mediterranean-max-hirzel-sink-without-trace-in-pictures
  2. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    Far dos, I do not know anything about you bar what is quoted on your avatar. I have never claimed to have any more experience or empathy than you. But glad you have responded to me highlighting of your term 'they' when branding refugees and immigrants with it. At least we have our beloved...
  3. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    You don't talk in personal experience, you just say THEY.. I work in London a lot where it says you live on your avatar, I work with youngsters who have had to flee terrible wars and witnessed things possibly only the VET's out in Normandy today may have experienced in our lifetimes. Like the...
  4. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    Very simplistic. On my part our estate we have a Syrian family, an Afgan family and three groups of eastern Europeans. All of them work and pay taxes into the system, all of them pay rent funding landlords, they organise social days where they cook food for everyone, their kids all play with...
  5. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    Not my definition of civil society, you make it sound like people escaping war and forced labour in places like Eritrea are on a summer vacation.
  6. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    I can assure you its based on my British values and the need to see people as human beings and not political objects to kick around. No sentiments their. What part of the Orwell text (written 1948) that you deleted from the quote was sentimental.
  7. Horton's halftime iceberg

    new government on English Channel migrants !!!

    A civilized society (that I hope we are) should welcome people in need, we have a proud history. We should be ashamed of the deaths, the sight of drowned children should be bringing people back to reality. Always reminds me of Orwell's 1984, we have partly become his dystopian future. Quote...
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