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"Fair enough" "although I completely accept you don't think it's better" You haven't quite got the hang of NSC yet have you? :lolol:

Besides, I thought all muslims look the same and are all called Abdul so how will ID benefit?

This doesn't make any sense though. You're stating the ID card is a single document which contains ID, NI number and your address. So, presumably, to obtain this extra piece of ID you need to provide a proof of address and your NI number. Why not just work with the source documents? To collate...

Okay. I understand. But, as I have already stated I'm not suggesting things don't happen, more it's seemingly a non-issue. If it's a big issue just post the figures of fraudulent votes, this is all you need to do. If you provide some validated figures for wide-scale abuse then few will disagree...

Okay dokey. Have a safe journey. I'm actually in Barcelona at the moment so you can have a free run on the pork knuckles...save some for me :thumbsup:

"their lawyers made a series of allegations" Your still posting unproven and spurious allegations. As an aside, I'm not suggesting things don't happen, more it's seemingly a non-issue. If it's an issue just post the figures of fraudulent votes, this is all you need to do. If you provide some...

crookie, pastafarian. Are either of you actually reading what you post? I feel my time is being wasted scanning your links for the reasons I have picked up on. I'm all for tightening up voting but a link from 2005 with no conclusion, a link about an entirely different issue and another which...

The second paragraph of the executive summary of your link states "Despite some high-profile cases in recent years when fraud has been detected and punished, there is no evidence to suggest that there have been widespread, systematic attempts to undermine or interfere with recent elections...

At the moment no, I don't. See above.

This link is about someone who ran a smear campaign and not about the thread topic of illegal voting. Given your previous post was from an 2005 and this one isn't about the correct topic I'll hazard a guess and suggest you typed "electoral fraud" into Google and posted the returns without...

This link is from 2005 and over 11 years old. The link states criminal charges were expected. What was the outcome?

Why do you think it's more wide spread? And how much more wide spread?

I'm just going by what The Merry Prankster posted. It's not something I've researched myself. Is it more wide spread?

The question was about whether these are needed for voting.

If this is the case then it's a total non-issue.

You don't need an ID card to vote. I'm not sure about whether a passport is needed to vote.

But I can use my passport for all of these. I don't follow your point about my life being easier due to an ID card.

How did it make your life easier? Conversely, I've never had an ID card and don't feel my life has been impeded.