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I have an agenda. But, I like to think I am reasonably aware of when, and when not, to push it. I personally didn't think this thread was the place. If you do fine, no skin of my nose. I'll leave you to it.

26 dead and dozens injured on the BBC.

1) I didn't say it was a thread to pay respects; I was trying to imply the tone was reflective. 2) As I said, there's a difference between a discussion and using it to push an agenda.

Agree

My point was this was a reflective thread dealing with and discussing the terrible events of today. For sure discuss security. But if you want to start pushing an anti-EU agenda then there's a separate thread. And before anyone suggests the contrary, there is a difference between discussing...

As an aside I'm flying tonight. Be interesting to see how security differs from pre-Paris, post-Paris and now. It visibly, and very noticeably, ramped up post-Paris.

Put simply it won't. Any public area, by its very definition, can be a target. And has been pointed out installing barriers will just move the crowd outside the public area; folk have to congregate somewhere.

This debatable, but now is not the time.

Do you have to try and derail what to now has been a reasonably reflective thread about today's events? Can you post this on the EU thread or something?

I don't want to belittle what has happened today, but the chances of being involved in something like this are still incredibly incredibly slim. Life does, and has to, go on.

Oh dear. Sad day.