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Don't just look at the financial side though. There's all manner of things you benefit from ranging from much needed research into epileptic children to quashing mobile phone roaming ripoff. In my humble opinion life is just easier.

Also interesting given that JCBs are only 30% British "manufactured" and rely heavily on Italian made parts apparently.

I'm baffled by Mr JCB's comments about less business red-tape being outside of the EU. Most people who trade between the UK and the EU will tell you it's a pretty seamless affair due to the EU freedoms. They will also tell you how much more difficult it is to trade with non-EU nations. Hans...

Think you need a rest mate. You're starting to jibber. Take some time out.

Jesus wept. Please, slow down, take a breath and go and read how law is made. Please please do it. Just for your own sake. It's no secret how it happens. All the commission can do is PROPOSE.

Numerous people are picking you up on your total misunderstanding of how the Commission works. It's no secret how it works. But you choose to believe some nonsense you have found on the net. I give up. I'm out.

Okay. Next time I fly to the UK I'll raise your point under the HUGE sign which says EU Passports.

Agree. And this is no secret so why anyone thinks different really baffles me. I'm happy for folk to think the EU doesn't work etc but please base the argument on fact and not just make stuff up or dredge the further reaches of the web for bizarre conversations about olive oil between two randoms.

Exactly my point above. The Commission can only act on what it's asked to do. I guess that's why they call it the Commission? I see it as being a very similar body to UK advisory panels and boards and expert committees etc.

The Commission cannot do anything outside of what it is asked to do by the Council or the MEPs. And even then the Council and MEPs have a final say. It therefore has no power. The clues are there in the words commission and delegated. Even your paste alludes to this. Looking at it another way...

Jeez. Here we go again. http://epthinktank.eu/2012/09/24/delegated-and-implementing-acts/ No, it's not a massive power, it's not even a small power. Just like I demonstrated earlier, yet again, there is NO power. I quote "with delegated acts the EP or Council can object to an individual act...

Here here.

A pleasure.

You are talking absolute utter rubbish. Please read how EU law is made for the sake of yourself and everyone reading http://europa.eu/eu-law/decision-making/procedures/index_en.htm This bit is salient "Both the Council (ie individual governments) and the Parliament (directly elected) can...

Alex, Pasta, can you help?

Alex Dawson and Pastafarian have both seemingly managed to comprehend my post and reply. It isn't that difficult surely? Unless of course you deliberately don't want to understand . I think you're being a little disingenuous here.

This remains to be seen. But I cannot see how you can cherry pick which freedoms as it's not fair on every other member. And it's not a case of anyone kicking someone out. More the Swiss deciding if the membership rules are for them or not. At the end of the day, no one is forced the be in the...

You are correct. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. But I cannot see the EU allowing one nation to cherry pick the 4 freedoms. If the club rules are not suitable for Switzerland I guess they'll leave. Why wouldn't they?

Agree.

Really? You don't know? Ffs.