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I was genuinely asking after you...and you twist it into an anti-EU post. Merry Xmas :smile:

http://blog.bandcamp.com/2014/12/30/eu-digital-vat-changes-and-bandcamp/ Seems like the issue is resolved.

You seem to be suggesting this will be a paperwork burden for people who are not declaring their income? You're not making any sense here.

Whilst I agree with most of what he and you have written I'm struggling to get my head around the additional burden. Chris must already be dealing with and filing accounts and self-assessment for overseas sales so I don't understand why this is causing folk to be overwhelmed? It is extra admin...

How was your time in France?

Have any of these given clear reasons? I'm genuinely interested to know how this affects them above and beyond their current accounting and tax obligations.

Good point made succinctly.

Getting back on topic, it seems Bandcamp have added functionality to their software and provide the tax info with the other data their service provides. https://bandcamp.com/help/selling#eu-vat-digital. Check the "What about taxes" section. As mentioned before I'm struggling to understand...

You seem to think there is some seismic change to cross-border sales being implemented. There isn't. Businesses already have to declare where they're sending their stuff for VAT purposes. All that is being asked is that you follow exactly the same process as before but apply the VAT at the other...

Oh, so the issue is with ropey 2-bit payment systems not asking where their customers reside as opposed to the EU screwing things up. Thanks for clarifying.

Whilst they're in the EFTA I didn't realise the UK has VAT agreements with Switzerland and Norway. Is this the case?

As I mentioned, I am a small operator in the EU and I know how difficult it will be if the UK left the EU. There are processes in place to make an onerous time consuming task take me 5 mins and I presume the HMRC benefit from these processes as well. Every other trader will be hit the same, or...

PayPal surely must know where the payment comes from? I would have thought this is a basic requirement to prevent laundering and other criminal activity?

Good point. And you won't need to use codes like "digital download" or "knitting patterns" either.

The real difficulty with foreign trading will occur if we left the EU. It will add a lot of time and red tape to my accounting and that of the HMRC.

Hmmmm. There seems to be a lot of scaremongering in this article. If you're flogging stuff you need to keep accounts regardless. Adding VAT into the mix isn't a big deal as far as I'm aware. I sell my services to the EU from a British company and it's a very easy process indeed..... ironically...