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Peter Crouch has got 22, how difficult can it be?

Fair point. But my sentiment still holds ie you cannot say someone is good/great etc on what might have been.

This.

It might not be his fault but the fact of the matter is he has not delivered whether it is his fault or not. You cannot give somebody world class status on sympathy or what-might-have-been.

top level but not the highest level. There are lot of mismatches and dead-rubbers in the CL and international qualifying. By highest I mean finals of international tournaments and semis and finals of European club tournaments. When we talk of the true greats of the game they have all scored...

But this is the point, he doesn't score at the top level. He has one goal from 3 World Cup finals. He is the most red-carded England player though.

He's a good domestic player but he has never dazzled either on the biggest stages or in the biggest games. All the genuine world class players have one or two big memorable moments or big games which they changed and which sealed their status. Rooney doesn't. He'll be remembered in the UK as...