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I meant to say that my exam marking starts very soon, so will be unable to respond much at all. Of course you are welcome to carry on the debate, should you so wish, but it only seems to be the two of us!! Please don't spend any more time on my account.

Everyday newspaper articles, items and interviews on the telly, and discussions with people, and folk who work in the Border agency, as we are quite close to Dover, plus family members in the Police, who have to round up "illegals" and then see them on the street again. It is as ever anecdotal...

I though that I had actually made that clear. We see many TV programmes etc that give a very different picture to eg your assertion, according to stats, that 51000 potential immigrants have been deported as a result of a truly rigorous and doubtless time-consuming hearing. The process of all...

Get a seat at one of the big conferences -they could do with your vision!

It all depends on what you are prepared to believe, I assume. Of course there is an argument which says that a respected university will come out with something of value, but as to whether they must therefore, be necessarily be free of political bias - that is a very bold claim. I am not...

No ,I am not, and as I made clear to you, unlike your believing self, I am wary of anyone, who makes claims about a subject that is so emotionally and politically charged. I gave you this as an example. Where we disagree is with your determination to accept "evidence-based" "studies" so long as...

"My faith is not blind" you say, but nonetheless you use it to back up points - that is the problem with your posts. Of course it is blind. My point about the TV interview (and the other examples) is not so much about what was said, but that your only reference to something that happens...

And herein lies the crux of the matter - your blind faith in studies and stats and the fact that you have to use them when talking about countries thousands of miles away. My comment was jocular by the way -I assume you had realised that, but obviously not - the hallmark of a fanatic who cannot...

Because in general we Brits tend to be a tolerant lot and softies that we are, we will stick to agreements. There is nothing here for you to find a controversy.

Of course this is the case -if we say no, then others will end up with more. there is no easy solution at all and I imagine that we will end up taking some, and proportionately more than others! Where he is being naïve, is when he thinks that us taking the 14,000 will necessarily solve matters...

Apologies, you were referring to the link -I had misread it. I will look in due course.

Ok fair comment. Of course, I could have researched it myself but that is not really the point that I was trying to make. We see many programmes on immigration, but none about deportation, which I find strange. I suspect that there may be something to hide?? The trouble is that I have little...

Is this not typical of a politician living in the clouds. Wonderful sentiments, showing how kind and nice he is, but with little real thought as to the practicalities, and the effect on the areas where they will settle -not that he will be any where near that, of course. Lets take 14,000 Syrians...

Please don't spend any more time in explaining, as I do understand the legal niceties. This highlighted para more than anything else demonstrates the problem when talking about something thousands of miles away. I suspect that the system in Oz is precisely as you state, as they are dealing with...

The original statement: Bad Fish: There you go 6% of non Uk nationals are claiming benefits (compared with 15% of Uk nationals) 6% of one smaller group and 15% of a larger group are claiming. OK, so far so good. Agreed? Then you say that use this comparison, to prove that 9% of the smaller...

I think the post might have meant when they board in their own country, and yes, I gather that this is routine that they get rid of their passport, when facing the prospect of a detention centre, knowing that it would be far more difficult to send them home.

It is of course possible that the figure of 2000 euros is a huge exaggeration. Would they be persecuted if they applied for an exit visa for a flight away from the home country or went through an official channel of some sort? I don't know that In Somalia they would be this advanced, but it...

The original statement: Bad Fish: There you go 6% of non Uk nationals are claiming benefits (compared with 15% of Uk nationals) Perhaps I am being thick here but I have looked at this time and time again, and still cannot work this out. You try!

So are you saying that those on the boats are asylum seekers and those in Calais are migrants, or perhaps vice versa? How do you know what they are? Who decides and if they work out that is best to claim that they are, say, asylum seekers, as this is more likely to gain them entry, then that is...

Thanks, and I have to say that this never comes over in your posts. Somehow I doubt very much you would be happy with a referendum the result of which says, basically, no entry and drown in the sea. I am not sure to what extent the agreements are in operation, that you state - you could be...