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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Brilliant! Loved it! bet it happens far more than we think!
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    You can quote many sources? I think it is called - making a statement that cannot immediately be disproved, hoping this will lend some credence to your view. I spoke to lots of people today who said exactly the opposite to what you have posting this morning, therefore I must be right. I see the...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    Thanks for the reply. With respect, I think you have misunderstood the article if you are using it against me. It says that a third of BNP voters have transferred their allegiance to UKIP -there is no real evidence for this other than Farage's boast, and of course he has everything to gain by...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    11000 voters in Rochdale and 12000 in the tory stronghold a couple of weeks ago and 16000 yesterday -if this is the case, then why is it that the BNP were only ever on the fringes? This is pure speculation designed to fuel your own prejudices, and quite clearly has no factual base. People are...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    It was near Rochdale and UKIP polled 11000 votes, narrowly behind the labour candidate with 1000 more. I think the reason that one thinks that they will split the right-wing vote, is because there have been by-elections of late in two tory strongholds, obviously Rochdale accepted, and on here it...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    The point I was making, as you well know, is that there are undoubtedly people voting UKIP who are racist , ( whatever that means, as the word is now banded about all too frequently) but that the vast majority of folk who vote for them are NOT -simply fearful of the future if what they perceive...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    I think you are jumping to a conclusion here that might not be warranted, though I don't doubt that this might be a part of the thinking. People who come here from outside the EU tend to be from different cultures, and tend to be less willing to integrate, with its implications for social...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    I am sure that there is huge frustration with the main parties. Might I take one example? A tory Lord uses insensitive language about the employment prospects of the disabled (whatever the truths may or may not be), and is then laying himself open to criticism of being a Tory toff and a member...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    This of course is conjecture -you may be right, of course. I realise that you are not arguing that voters should understand the intricacies of the economy but your rather dismissive point was that UKIP voters don't - this is no different to supporters of all parties, and myself! True, their...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    I think the idea of them shaking up politics come from the sheer scale of the swing that we have seen - this is what is quite unique. We have of course only seen two examples of what you are saying,ie defected MPs, so it is rather too early to tell. There could be more. I think you are trying to...
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    UKIP MP number 2 coming up.

    With respect, this is dreadfully simplistic -what evidence have you got for such a sweeping statement? I suspect that many voters of all parties are not sure of something so complex -why do economists themselves disagree? The two recent by elections saw 12,000 vote UKIP in a Tory stronghold and...
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