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Yes, correct. Bank robbers, even when no violence was involved, used to get a standard 25 years. We appear to value money above people. The wider problem is that in the court of public opinion there is always a clamour to increase sentencing for every crime, and if the court of public opinion...

I can see why you posted that but I find it difficult to judge how outraged I should feel when I don't have details. My suspicion is this was not an Ian Watkins situation. That may not be sufficient to persuade many, myself included, to fall short of calling for him and others to have their...

Thou shalt not take the moneys. Not the moneys from the Big Money. No, sir. Take the moneys from the Big Money and fire will burn you. That's how standards are maintained, and we all can all appreciate that. Don't f*** with the moneys. No sir.

Is that Yorkshire "in T'day" gone a bit wrong? Although not as wrong as the vicar, obvs.

Ah, Napster and Audiogalaxy. Peer to peer file sharing. That opened the door to me to a whole bunch of new music, bands I'd never heard of that, later, I'd manage to see many times, like Mesh, Assemblage 23, VNVNation and Icon of Coil :love: Personally I'd be happy to pay decent money to watch...

The Daily Mirror, you say? ???