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And if the jocks can upgrade....

I remember being quite surprised by the glee of the jocks beating us at Wembley in 77, and then going berzoik, so whatever sense of one nation they may have had in 66 had long since departed by then. So I suspect as you dad said they never did like us, and the sense of togetherness was entirely...

Quite. Not only is it a dirge, it is a 'UK' dirge. The jocks get to sing flower of Scotland at the footy then have to sing the dirge when they represent and win a medal for GBNI in the olympics. As I said earlier, no wonder they hate us.

Its the union flags that does my head in. Watch that old footage. You get the feeling that in the 60s the lumpen proletariate had no idea what country they lived in. And there are plenty who still shrug their shoulders when this is pointed out. I was only 8 at the time and it all seemed normal...

This. The union jack flags. The pay on the gate. The total national cluelessness. We were a zombie nation in 66, and football and its utter majesty was not on the radar. Bollocks to it. Time we wrote some proper history. Come on England!!