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Generalisations again . . . . I'm not an 'outer' and annoy most 'proper' lefties, even though I vote labour. Cameron has done a fair job of attempting to accomodate an element of his party while directing the good ship UK towards staying in. In this respect only he appears to have failed...

Taking what you said out of its context, fair enough. But I'd struggle, really, to call the young lefties I come across as socialist, frankly. And they certainly don't represent anything other than themselves. I'll give you an example. A young lass at work, started on about the tragedy of the...

Nonsense. Left types are not all the same. Your generalisation is absurd as saying that tories all agree with the election slogan used by a conservative candidate in the 60s ("If you want a n***** for a neighbour, vote labour"). Pathetic. And insulting.

I'm quite interested in the steer given by political leaders. Albeit this is usually when they are selling their arses (sorry, 'wares'). I find it odd to see left and right fragmenting over this. It tells me that nobody really knows what is at stake (even if some like you have a strong...

Michael Gove has just 'come out' as a 'leave' campaigner. That should put a stop to the 'heavy sway' to leave momentum. All we need now is Jezza to 'oppose' Cameron's call to stay in, and there will be a heavy sway of total confusion and uncertainty about the issue. Hang on . . . :lolol:

No. He will get a deal. But it won't suit folk who want out, or folk who want a different kind of arrangement for entry and entitlements. So he'll front up a 'vote yes' campaign with lots of his own party campaigning against him. In other words, a fiasco. What was he thinking? :shrug: