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I say let the Scots vote now.

You make wrong assumptions and then are shown why. Then you shift your premise/question. You don't know when to stop. I do, I give up.

Catalonia is by far the most popular area. There would also be an impact on Spain's economy if many financial assets are transferred (just as with Brexit/EU). Catalonia contributes more to Spain than California does to the USA. Catalonia is the top region of Spain for exports, with 25% of...

Domino effect? Not to mention trade (Barcelona and the region are Spain's biggest traders) and tourism. All of these will have some kind of effect on the average UK citizen.

I would try, if you can knock a few grey cells together, to think along the lines of EU fragmentation, possibilities of other regions flexing their muscles, Scotland, Basque region, Flemish region.....

Where have the thumbs down gone?

Ostensibly yes. However, in the long term, unless a government is determined to rule in a draconian manner, then it will rumble on and there would at the least be concessions. I do not think the idea of an independent Catalonia will go away very easily.

Indeed, there is a big chance of conflict. This situation is so fascinating and once again, IMO, is a situation like Brexit and Trump which is fuelled by dissatisfaction with Globalisation. Also be interesting to see how the EU deals with any violence, especially if the conflict inflates. Will...

And yet his position as a member of that pathetic house, and as leader of a party that wishes to remove its direct influence from our country, has been enormously effective and for that achievement, you cannot abide him. He has done everything his electorate asked of him. Highly successful...

So you haven't been one of the many remainer posters on here who has complained and said he has a cheek to show up in the European parliament then? This. And on the issue of Spain and Catalonia, he is absolutely correct. Incidentally, Juncker won't be a very happy man this morning as tax...

No one, well at least no one sane, is blaming the EU for the lack of wisdom of the Spanish government. And well done for missing the point completely.

That may be a good point. Any chance of repeating it on the myriad of political and non political threads where Brexit and it's supporters are blamed for a myriad of unconnected ills? After all, fair's fair.

Nail, head.

But interesting that he calls the vote nationalistic. I thought the premise the Madrid authorities were working on was that Catalan is not a nation?

One thing is for sure, the EU hates it when the democratic will of the people doesn't coincide with its own aims. Hence re-holding referenda if the 'right' result isn't achieved and now this abysmal attitude when a member state attacks its own people. The Spanish govts attitude and now the EU...