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That’s an interesting take on it - so, by saying that our goal will never be more than “stay up”, TB could simply be saying “we’ll never be a top 6 club”? Yep - that’s a more positive spin than I’ve put on the messaging so far.

Take your choice of a sherbet fountain or a Caramac. All sold out of Curly Wurlies, I’m afraid.

Fair enough - but see my reply (post 22) to a similar point made earlier.

Yep - this. I’m more than happy with this as a goal. I wonder if all fans will be? Also - what about players, CH, PB? Will they also be happy to be part of a team that is likely (but not guaranteed) to stay in the PL in 5 years’ time, or will they want something more?

I think I’ve allowed a mis-representation of his use of “forever” to be perpetuated on this thread. It’s not “my goal is to stay in the PL forever”! It’s “for each season that we do manage to stay up (and it’s likely that at some point we’ll be relegated), the next season’s goal will also be to...

FFS :facepalm: Don’t get me wrong, I WOULD prefer to see Liverpool win it than RM (again), but a banner? :nono:

“Try” to finish as high as we can? Yes, of course. Provide additional funds to try to finish above, say, 12th (allowing some contingency)? That’s where my doubt is. As my thinking has evolved, I now wish the poll option had been “Nope - surely there’ll come a time when funding should be...

I’d agree with all of this, including your assessment of what the dream should now be. Given TB’s recent musings on the Albion’s future, my sense is that he’d share that dream, but isn’t going to provide funding above and beyond that which is assessed to be needed to keep us in the PL (allowing...

It was my question in the Burnley forum that elicited the first “forever” comment. I picked up on it and filed it away for future consideration. It’s today’s Argus article where he’s repeated the same word that has caused me to believe its use was deliberate (or, at least, subsequent to the...

Yep - over analysing is definitely possible! But - he has said “forever” twice in a month. TB doesn’t strike me as the type to be careless with his words about the club’s future goals in a public forum...

The bottom four this season finished last season in 8th, 10th, 13th and 15th (average 11.5th), so - finishing in the top 14 is absolutely no guarantee of avoiding the drop.

Ok - so if TB feels the same, why didn’t he say so? He could have said “Look, the PL is really tough - our first goal is to get as established as anyone can (look at Stoke for a dose of realism). That is likely to take several years. It’s pointless looking further forward than that, so I...

Based on what? Twice in the last month, TB has said that he thinks the goal will be to stay up “forever”. He’s also said he hopes for a(nother) good cup run and would like to hope that we can finish higher up the league - but a goal of avoiding relegation “forever” does not carry the same cost...

So you think that TB’s use of “forever” is primarily a ploy to get us to remain realistic for a while, and should not be taken literally? “Forever” doesn’t mean forever? Maybe so.

At the forum prior to the Burnley game and again today reported in the Argus, TB has used the word “forever” in relation to his opinion of the realistic goal for the Albion being to stay up. Obviously, he wants to finish as high as possible, and would love a long cup run too, but he views the...