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  1. Giraffe

    Gareth Southgate and the England job

    I'd take some quarter final apperances right now wouldn't you? 2002 was Seaman peddling backwards, 2006 we were done on penalties after Ronaldo winked. Our natural level should be aiming to reach quarter finals of both major tournaments. The "golden era" did do that. Beyond that needs some luck...
  2. Giraffe

    Gareth Southgate and the England job

    I care passionately about the England side, but we need to realise that the rest of the world has caught up and in some cases over taken us. Too many of our players look great in the Premier League because they are surrounded by foreign talent. When you take that away they become just good, not...
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