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Fair enough - obviously I acknowledge your first hand experience. Such a shame that that's the way it is. Still think the world will be - just a tiny bit - a better place when the old murderous crook isn't in it any more!

I suppose there were danger signs when Mbeke (sp?) always protected Mugabe, at the ANC for example, when it wasn't just Zimbabweans who were expressing doubts about him.

Perhaps they need the old bugger to actually be dead before his malign influence starts to wane.