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Yes, I think they do - different sort of feel altogether. Liverpool fans know that although they were once invincible in England, as well as being absolute masters of Europe, they've had years of (relatively!) harder times (but wouldn't most of us love Liverpool's 'Harder Times!'), with various...

Come on Liverpool - longing to see those poor Arsenal supporters wringing their hands when their absolute right to be in the Champions' League is taken away from them!

I'm waiting until the fixtures come out - there's still time for a fifteen point deduction before then!