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Yes, that is the historical story, and most of us do know it, apart from a few conspiracy theorists who'll have their own versions to suit their particular agendas. Yes, it was extreme force, so, was it justified? Yes, I believe it was - it probably saved as many lives as it killed - hand to...

So long as we also include everybody who boasts about their fancy mobile phone every time they post on chat sites! :thumbsup:

On the other hand, as there is no way of recording it, we can never know how many people were deterred in the past by the existence of the death penalty. And there can never be any definitive evidence to prove that no person, ever, wasn't deterred.

Yes, I would seriously question the use of 'widely shared' in this context. Widely shared amongst what small particular interest group, I wonder.

I think it's a view that you hold today............

Death is cruel, you're quite right. But not unusual.