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Even though you are obviously CORRECT that his contribution in terms of actual results was minimal... ..one still has to side with this point of view. And when I say 'one', obviously I mean 'anyone who actually loves football'. Andrew Crofts (in first spell) for example, was far more...

First point is valid. I'm sure he's worked with plenty of non English speaking players though, in his managerial career. Second point, not so sure. Vicente, on the rare occasions he could be bothered to actually play at all, worked as hard as anyone.

Plain wrong, I'd say. If you want to discuss TECHNICALLY GIFTED (rather than strong / athletic / quick / hard-working / anything else...) Wayne Bridge was FAR more TG than any of our current LB options. Matt Upson more TG than Duffy Liam Bridcutt easily comparable (TG) to Stephens Hell...

Thank you for you input.

This post in the Poyet thread made me think... ... just what would we have got out of Vicente, if he'd played under Chris Hughton? My view is that the sublimely talented but chronically fragile Vicente was clearly exceptionally high maintenance. I imagine he needed constant attention from the...