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Rica Costa doesn't count, that was just a dead rubber. Iceland was an aberration. We'll have LEARNED from it. Probably.

If we don't make the last 8 this time, we might as well permanently retire the England team from International tournaments. We've practically got a BYE :thumbsup:

I disagree. I'm finding myself dangerously optimistic this year. Last time in Brazil, with us starting off against Italy and then Uruguay, I was not confident of getting out of that group at all, particularly with all the usual heat and humidity excuses. This time, I can't help it...I THINK...

Not really. This year, I'd say that would be par. The group games have fallen in a nice order for us. We *should* be able to chisel out at least 4 points from the Tunisia and Panama games. It certainly wont' be pretty as they'll both park the bus, and we don't have much craft or guile to break...

The bookies know that LOADS of people will do a 'loyalty bet' on England to win, which is why the odds they give for that are always so mingey. They're not going to over-expose themselves with more generous (and realistic) odds. I gather we're about 4/11 with most bookies for the win. I'd still...