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Spot on. It really is a complete nonsense that terraces are apparently safe in L1 and below, but are apparently unacceptable at any level above that. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Indeed. There's also the fact that unlike in days gone by, we can't just rock up and pay on the gate, tickets always have to be purchased in advance via the clubs database. Even if safe-standing was introduced, then doubtless there'd be no change to that policy, so its much harder to be...

One of many factors yes, but it was not the actual cause. If a drunk driver ploughs into a bus queue, you don't go and ban all cars do you. Safety may not be the only excuse constantly peddled for the resistance to the re-introduction of terracing, but its certainly The Big One thats always...

More evolved methods of policing and stewarding and an increased use of CCTV for prosecutions are also factors. Its not as though we hear about it kicking off regularly in the lower leagues on their terraces is it. I think its a bit simplistic to put the reduced instances of trouble down to...

Terracing was not the cause of Hillsborough at all, it was a combination of a heck of a lot more than that, as we now know.

Sorry, I wasn't aware Gigg Lane is already an all-seater. But the point remains, most lower league grounds do still have terracing. The fact that Torquay (in your example) get crowds of less than half their capacity is an irrelevance. Plainmoor has a capacity of 6,500, of which 2,950 is seating...

Sorry, but I just can't buy into this argument. A ground with terracing is either safe, or it isn't. This isn't 1989. Every ground in this country must meet stringent regulations nowadays, and have a regularly reviewed safety certificate to allow it to operate. A specific capacity is designated...

I'm happy to accept a counter-argument, but I have yet to see a very convincing one as to why fans should not be allowed to have a choice of whether to sit, or whether to have an area in the stadium where they can stand. Its a nonsense that the right to a terrace is dictated by the division the...

So because some fans only want to sit, and would only ever want to sit in the North stand not anywhere else, the choice of having a standing area should be flatly denied to everyone else ?

And thats different from the North stand because...?

This is a bit crap. If someone wants to sit down, then they would potentially have a choice of nigh-on three-quarters of the stadium to choose where to sit. Not offering the choice of standing because some fans only WANT to be seated, and only WANT to sit in the North, goes against the idea of...