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To quote myself from an earlier post - the training has moved from (I think) 12 weeks down to 3 weeks due to the removal of safety critical functions. I heard yesterday that the new On board supervisors were being trained how to evacuate a train - ON PLATFORMS ONLY!! as they will not be trained...

There is always a compromise and yes the above could in theory work. In all honestly I don't think the RMT will budge from needing the guarantee that the second member of train crew has to be on board at all times (because otherwise it's just another step down the line to getting rid of guards)...

You seem to be blinded by your view of the unions. Again, I ask you how will the service be modernised and improved for the benefit of the passengers by removing a safety critically trained member of staff?

That'll be the RAIB with Charles Horton of GTR on the board then. And again, at Gatwick platform staff dispatch the train regardless of whether there is a guard so it makes no difference. and once again - the dispute isn't solely down to who shuts the doors despite every sodding report on TV...

Yep, that's fine - happens at major stations and is one of the reasons why DOO has been allowed on the main line over the years - mainly terminal stations as well as Gatwick, Haywards Heath, East Croydon and Clapham junction amongst others - as long as someone can stand back and view the whole...

And how many do Southern have sick?

Trust me, I'm no great supporter of the Unions and I'm not militant but, whilst this is naturally about protecting jobs (more so in the future really) this is predominantly a safety issue - no one will ever convince me it is as safe to have just me at the front of a 12 coach train carrying 1500...

I'm sorry but that is total and utter rubbish.

Thank you - well put.

Explain how removing a second safety critical member of crew from trains is modernisation?

Just posted by albionite on the strike thread - this is a pretty reasonable and concise summary from a commuter. You can read his other blogs for more info if you wish: http://davidboyle.blogspot.co.uk/2016_08_01_archive.html

Your impression is wrong. Best grab some popcorn and read as much of the Southern rail strike thread as you can bear.

I don't even know where to start!!

Nice idea but Southern won't give a monkeys. Somehow you need to aim your protests at the government. They could stop the whole issue just by clicking their fingers if they wanted. Southern are incompetent and are making a bad situation worse but the Dft is the driving force behind these problems.