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We're not going to agree, ever agree I'm afraid. I've seen enough impressive performances over the years of defenders (Dunk, Cullip, etc) to know that Van Hecke's against City wasn't that. But will bow out now, hope I'm wrong but remain convinced that he's 'not all that' right now

No, I was there. As ever. Thought he got mainly bulled by Haaland (but then again most do) fouled Haaland alot to stop him and was comically sh1t on the goal line to stop the weak shot from Foden going in. I just don't see a decent defender in Van Hecke but acknowledge I'm in the minority with...

Going to go 'Dwayne' here, but am I the only one on here who doesn't rate Van Hecke....... Just see him as a weak link and not a Premier League defender I know I'm going to get the 'he's young' line thrown at me, but never been convinced when I've seen him live/on TV. Hope to be proved wrong...