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Fair enough and thanks for taking the time to post this. Not attention seeking, just expressing a view on a chat forum.

Yes the world I live in. I don't know for sure but I imagine you need to be able to swim to be in the Police. Conditions? Would imagine a frozen lake would've been very calm. I'm not advocating the Police jump off Tower Bridge to rescue someone or take risks that would involve them most...

I'm not being in the least bit aggressive about it but concede a certain amount of sarcasm when I read about 'APP' and 'NDM'. I've nothing but admiration for the guy who dived in to try and save the little boys, as indeed I've nothing but admiration for anyone in the emergency services. I'm not...

So on Sunday when they arrived they weren't required to enter the water but expected to carry out a 'dynamic risk assessment' well that was really going to help the poor children who were drowning. But hey as long as the APP and NDM are happy that's all ok then.

'Not get involved in rescue activities.' What are they there for?

Careful Roy you'll have other posters trying to get you banned posting stuff like that.

I'll wear it with pride. Bit sad really when on a forum you get fellow posters screaming 'banned' like they are kids on a playground grassing up someone who has stolen their marbles. Not that you have done that I hasten to add.

Give me the Mets 'working in water' guidelines all you like. On Sunday the Police attending that scene had an absolute duty to do all they could to rescue those young children. If that makes me a 'callous ****' then so be it.

Would imagine to be in the Police force you need to be able to swim. Ok so answer me this: On Sunday when the police arrived at the scene knowing there was 3 children drowning, what course of action should they have taken?

When did I say that?

How do you know I've previously been banned? Can't your delicate little soul take someone on here you disagree with ? So your answer is to ban someone if you disagree with them? Didn't see you getting stuck into the poster today who said he would be extremely miffed if it was his grandson...

Because it is their job!! What were the Police supposed to do when they arrived at the scene on Sunday, carry out a full 'risk assessment?'

Keyboard warrior. Easy to dish out insults online isn't it.

I didn't ever say the Police on the scene didn't attempt to rescue the children I merely said it's there job to do so and it is. Being in the Police / Fire Brigade comes with an element of risk such as Sunday afternoon in Solihull.

What is callous about me saying the Police should've done all they could to try and save the lives of the young children? They are in the emergency services, they've signed up to do a dangerous job. I greatly them for it. I think the second sentence of your post is disgraceful.

Obliged to commit suicide? Or do the job you are paid to do which you know carries an element of risk? How could a policeman look a parent in the eye and say 'no I didn't try and rescue your child as I felt it to be too risky.'

When did I say they don't deserve any praise for risking their lives to save others? Correct. I honestly could not answer, I have no idea how I would react if faced with a similar situation. Yes I could give a 'course I would've jumped in to try and save them' answer but I can't guarantee I...

What do you mean by that?

I'm not employed as a Police officer as I have no desire to put my risk life to earn a living. I admire those that do work in the emergency services but I think if that is something you choose to do you have to accept the role carries an element of risk.

Surely trying to save lives should come before a risk assessment? To me it's f**k to the risk assessment and wade in and try and save the lives of little ones.