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  1. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    Match fixing involving UK footballers has been alleged on more than one occasion over the decades, and there was a scandal in the early 1960s in which some players were actually imprisoned and banned. Hence the strict rules about players betting on matches. Barcelona have been charged with...
  2. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    I quite like this idea of being able to ask for a set number of reviews. One benefit at least is that a player diving in the area or going down too easily would be very reluctant to waste a review on something he knows is very dubious which in turn would cut down much of the theatrical...
  3. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    Oh here we go, the Liverpool sensor must have beeped again.
  4. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    Understood, though unfortunately handball offences are one huge mess with some blatant ones ignored while other contentious ones (eg Dunk against Luton, and Luton v Wolves) are given. The problem there is confusion about the law and how it’s applied. And even if the law is fully understood...
  5. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    I’ve already explained why the Sunday VAR cockup was different, and arguably worse. I can’t believe that people are advocating that clubs should just roll over and keep quiet in these circumstances. We felt outraged when it happened to us. And yes, release all audio — why not?
  6. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    @Iggle Piggle I’m not going to defend the Saudis but tell me how trying to bribe a ref is possible under VAR? And of course if the ref reported the attempted bribe (as I’m certain they would), that would be the end of the Saudis' foray into football ownership, and would have serious...
  7. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    It will explain how the error was made, and far from exposing a conspiracy against Liverpool it will confirm that it wasn’t a conspiracy but a cockup. What do you expect Liverpool to do? Just shrug and leave it?
  8. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    It’s not a 'look at us' attitude. They feel aggrieved and want accountability. We protested publicly too but our VAR cockup, not being awarded a penalty, is nothing like as bad as the VAR cockup on Sunday. On Sunday the VAR actually made the right decision but it wasn’t communicated correctly...
  9. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    VAR cockups are totally different from any alleged police corruption. Liverpool's wrongly disallowed goal, and the penalties not awarded to us and to Wolves against ManU (and several other incidents) are errors played out in front of millions of people live on TV. They can’t be concealed. There...
  10. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    But what does "deliberate corruption" mean? Do you seriously think all those VAR guys sitting in that room are conspiring together with… with who? Daniel Levy? Conte? A shady betting syndicate? How much will all those officials have to be paid to compensate them for the risk of being detected...
  11. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    There were several poor decisions, yes, we all agree on that.
  12. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    So I ask again — if it wasn’t just a mix of incompetence and mild intimidation, what is it? What’s the explanation?
  13. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    From memory, the ref body apologised for the penalty that should have been given, but wasn’t. There were other dubious decisions that went against Albion but I’m not sure that these were VAR cock-ups. They certainly included dodgy decisions but these happen in every game. But more to the...
  14. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    Yeah, it’s been said many times. Get some smart techie kids with an anorak-ish knowledge of the game and the laws, in front of the screens with a couple of referees alongside them to advise and validate, and to request particular views. Much more likely to produce faster, better results.
  15. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    No, but I wonder what would have happened had he stopped the game and explained to the 2 captains and managers that there had been a serious but accidental miscommunication, and suggested that Spurs allow a Liverpool player to score unopposed? I bet he, and certainly Tottenham/Ange, would have...
  16. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    You’re right, and I’m pretty certain that will be an immediate change (and improvement) to their procedures. Like most things in life, it takes a cock up, or tragedy, to bring about change.
  17. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    No, I don’t think that. I’m not a conspiracy theorist.
  18. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    Fair point, you’re correct. Though if the VAR advises the ref to go to the screen to reconsider his penalty decision I guess that’s tantamount to making a decision, or at least having very strong reservations about it.
  19. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    That’s ridiculous. It panders to the conspiracy theorists who much prefer to assume that the world’s against them than the obvious truth — that people under pressure make cock-ups. Better training, technology and procedures is what’s needed. Some of these things can happen immediately while...
  20. Colonel Mustard

    [Albion] The injustice against Liverpool

    It maybe naive to think they should get everything right but it’s reasonable to assume they should get most things right — which they do. What is naive is the assumption that pre-VAR, things were better. Every Monday was filled with moaning about blatant offsides being missed and goals that...
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