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some 'progressive' liberal types who claim to support/speak up for the poorer, disenfranchised members of society heaping patronising abuse on the poorer, disenfranchised members of society when they vote for the wrong side Ironic isn't it!

Me too, I feel disenfranchised with the the current political offering, perhaps closer to the SNP than i thought!

I would suggest your fathers generation was left wing authoritarian, the lefties that many people describe on here are more libertarian in their views, my late uncle and red Baron no less at the Post Office Union hated immigrants, homosexuals and dogs!