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Sigh... . There really is no fallacy. I've already acknowledged that the figures may be right but because they are unreliable according to the ONS, I'd follow the rule on statistical analysis validity and ignore any conclusions. That is not confirmation bias. If you choose to believe otherwise...

I'm sorry but it really does. There's something called 'statistical conclusion validity' and the threats to this validity are: I've highlighted the relevant bit. As I've said earlier, I'm not saying that the police data or even that increase of 42% is wrong, it may well be spot on but if...

No, no and once again no. Firstly, I did not substitute the word unreliable for invalid. I said the source data was unreliable for measuring trends and then said that any conclusions drawn from it about trends are invalid. It's inference, standard logic. You on the other hand are taking...

You're being needlessly defensive here. I dare say that the ONS do believe that gun crime is increasing. It doesn't change the fact that the police figures quoting a 42% increase are, in the opinion of the ONS an unreliable source of information for tracking crime trends. It's as simple as...

I didn't miss it at all because despite the point you've highlighted, the ONS still issued that statement advising people not to draw any conclusions about crime trends from the police figures. If you've got issues with that, then you really need to take it up with the ONS.

No. They are not to be used as any sort of indication. The ONS made that very clear. No amount of sophism or pedantry regarding the definitions of invalid or unreliable will alter that. You want the quote verbatim? Here's the quote verbatim: “While these figures are useful in giving an insight...

Well..I'm quoting the ONS about any conclusions drawn re. crime trends being invalid, so you're saying that they don't get statistics. That's the Office for National Statistics. Righto.

Yes and no. That figure comes from stats collated by the police rather than the ONS, who have cautioned against using that data to make statements about crime trends. The stats are being heavily quoted as part of the Met PR to highlight police cuts so the figures will almost certainly be a...