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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Aristocracy - yes. Tories - yes and no. The father of the modern Conservative Party, Disraeli, was Jewish (converted to Christianity but was always referred to by his ancestry). There is a hard right side to the party has long been antagonistic to Jews but by and large, it's been as much a home...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Palestine activism within the Labour Party over the last 40 odd years with Labour turning a blind eye to the anti-Semitism of Hamas et al poisoning the debate because the activists were all seen to be fringe players. Then Corbyn became leader and the activists have become empowered and they are...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Agree completely. An end to whataboutery. All parties held to account for their failures/mistakes/bigotry. Disagree completely. We need to keep up tbe pressure until the problems are fixed and the rotten apples in British politics are all removed. Just think how much healthier the Tory Party...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Who's in charge of that Leave.EU group? If there's any politicians attached to it then they need to explain themselves every bit as much as Momentum. Two tweets in particular: This tweet is just plain nasty, it's shit-stirring, and looks to me like its accusing all Muslims of being Labour...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    I'm not forgetting any point. I can't be bothered with whatever beef you have with someone else. You made an irrelevant comment about a dead journalist's opinion of Oswald Mosley and that's what I responded to. Regards your Daily Mail comments - I've explained about 3 or 4 times now why they...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Where have I tried to fight his corner? All my posts with you are about your ridiculously stupid original Daily Mail Mosley comment. I've kept it firmly on that topic despite you trying to deflect further by bringing others into it.
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    More nonsense. You were the one who first brought up the Daily Mail. He responded to you. Repeat - you first mentioned the Daily Mail. That Daily Mail opinion-piece in support for Mosley was written by a journalist who is dead. The newspaper proprietor is dead. The readers who bought the...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Rubbish. By your own admission as the above quote, you wanted to chuck in some whataboutery and you could have picked a hundred different contemporary subjects to deflect but as always you went for the Daily Mail (this time from 85 years ago) because it's easy, requires no thought and...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    So what's your view on the anti-Semitism? We know your view of the Daily Mail's opinion and from where I'm sitting it looks a lot like you're deflecting and dismissing the issue. It's fair to say you're more bothered about commenting on a Daily Mail opinion from 85 years ago rather than racism a...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Just to add, that the Tories were just as shamefully tardy in disassociating themselves from the Monday Club. They tolerated a racist hard-right group whose values were markedly different from the Conservative Party for decades.
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    It doesn't have to be Corbyn. It's usually the Party Secretary who deals with this isn't it? I don't understand why a diktat can't be issued ordering party members to cease any political campaigning with expelled members or risk being disciplined or the relevant groups threatened with...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Keable is a senior member of Labour against the Witch-hunt. A group that carries the party name. He's heavily involved with JVL, someone expelled for anti-Semitism and no-one seems bothered with his continued association with a group that is supposed to represent Jewish Labour supporters. He's...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Smear? Are you saying I'm smearing him as anti-Semitic by posting a video of him being anti-Semitic? You must be exhausted keeping in character like this.
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    You've posted a tweet from Jewish Voice of Labour that he undoubtedly had a hand in drafting. To all intents and purposes he's still part of the Labour Party when useful idiots like you unwittingly keep him relevant.
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Call me a sentimental fool but seeing photos of what happened the last time anti-Semitism went unchecked makes me a tad uneasy. Also, Tony Bloom is of that persuasion so it's in every Brighton fan's best interests to make sure he doesn't jack it all in and move to Australia. But mainly it's...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    How about this zinger, fresh from the oven? Stan Keable, expelled from the party for anti-Semitism but still a senior figure in both Labour against the Witch-hunt and Jewish Voice for Labour. He's been recorded yesterday telling a protester that anti-Semitism didn't cause the Holocaust and...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Why use the word 'apparent'? Corbyn has said that the problem is real. Fortunately, Corbyn appears to be as useless on social media as the average Tory Luddite so he will probably give the problem a bit more thought than just seeing who can shout loudest on Twitter.
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    I think this is why it puts us into dangerous and uncharted territory. With the far-right, you get what you see. They're not well known for their intellectual rigour and their reasons for hating Jews comes down to the fact that Hitler hated them. The arguments have been completely debunked so...
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Apologies. I misunderstood it. If, after all this, you still think anti-Semitism is the preserve of the far-right then I worry about what it would take to persuade you otherwise.
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    [Albion] The Labour party and anti-Semitism

    Ah. My concerns aren't real. I'm just shit-stirring because I'm moderately right-wing and anti-Semitism is historically a far-right thing. I think we're done here Dave.
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